Most people I know that have work that is very meaningful to them pay the price of having to work all the time.
Terry GrossAnd once you say this is true, you start naming the beast that hurts you - so I started doing this. Other truths come out.
Terry GrossI mean, Dad was one of these people who simply could not lose, you know? He could not stand it when a kid was beating him. He would go crazy when the child came to that moment, which, you know, you have to come to - I mean, Dad played Old Maids like he played football. He just simply had to win every single thing every single time.
Terry Gross