South Africa was to evolve into the most pernicious example of the criminal practise of colonial and white minority domination.

As I said, the matter of the Pan African Parliament was raised with us by other African countries who said we should host.

We do not have a South African as a member of the African Commission. The President of the Commission comes from Mali, the Deputy comes from Rwanda and then we have got all these other members, ordinary commissioners. There is no South African there. And the reason, again, for that is not because we didn't have South Africans who are competent.

I get a sense that we've all been educated into one school of thought. I'm not surprised at all to find among the overwhelming majority of scientists, are people who would hold one particular view because that's all they're exposed to.

What moved us was not so much what would it do for South Africa, but there has been a great keenness on the Continent that the location of the Pan African Parliament must add to its credibility. And, so we said, fine, it's a contribution to this process of the democratisation of the African Continent.

For the first time in human history, society has the capacity, the knowledge and the resources to eradicate poverty

If we only said safe sex, use a condom, we won't stop the spread of AIDS in this country.