Whoever saves one life, saves the world entire.

But I was also a brat. I used to belong to a gang that went looking for fights with other gangs.

Australia integrated the - brought on the ships and unleashed in the society the dogs of sectarianism, which had existed in other places - in Glasgow, in Liverpool and of course in Ireland, north and south.

So I was very close to ordination. I was delighted to be ordained a deacon, which is the last step between, before becoming a priest. But then it all fell apart.

You know, so I was a weird eccentric kid but I did believe in the power of the word and of the word being made flesh I suppose, which again I suppose came from my temperament as well as my upbringing.

And I found both literature and the church very dramatic presences in the world of the 1950s.

I was never any good at cricket thought I love it as a, as a sort of mystery.