We're striving to stay in the arenas. We [Papa Roach] had just little things that just took our show a step up and were so stoked for that.

When a label is throwing money at you, you have to recoup it.

I have known people throughout my years of playing where maybe they had a gig, but then lost the gig because they didn't really move forward with them.

I filled in for Papa Roach because we weren't doing much. Unwritten Law had a few more shows booked, but I got the call to fill in again at the end of the year. I was like, "I have to make myself available to these guys."

Papa Roach is actually a band that's great at playing arenas. Not every band is suited for that environment. But besides the huge energy you guys bring, the songs are very grand and anthemic. "Kick in the Teeth" being an example as a song that's made for huge crowd sing-alongs, not tiny little club shows.

I was still doing the punk thing, but also playing in some indie bands, I had a less crazy hairstyle.

But being energetic in my playing is something I've always thought was the right thing to do. Like I'm never forcing it, like "My God, I've gotta play so hard tonight!"