What I miss [about church] is being forced to be in community with people that aren't the same as me.
Win ButlerThere's this idea, particularly in pop music and a lot of these pop father/manager types, that you're selling the person instead of the song. You basically want to create something that the fans relate to because it's exactly like them. So there's a lot of art that's made to be in the image of the audience, but then the audience is imitating this version of themselves. It's a really weird cultural feedback loop, and it's kind of strange to watch. It's a new thing since I was a kid, really a different thing.
Win ButlerI think of hip hop as a mass media, radio, MTV thing. Itโs been extremely relevant over the last 10 years and rock music is just not anymoreโ-a tear rolls down my cheek as I say that.
Win ButlerMy favorite English teacher in high school showed me 'Brazil' when I was 15 and it blew my mind. It's one of those movies that's revealed itself in different ways as I've gone back to it over the years.
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