I like the fervor of religious music, the zealous aspect - that preachers can go from a conversational cadence into this passionate singing.

I like the fervor of religious music, the zealous aspect - that preachers can go from a conversational cadence into this passionate singing.

I never want to listen to the songs in front of people close to me. There's an emotional honesty in that place where it's not earnest but it's vulnerable.

I started growing roses. I enjoyed the craft of it and that they're difficult to look after; they can provide joy.

I was definitely inspired by gospel music, or old-school R&B; I got into some Good God gospel compilations.

If you can express something in the simplest way possible, I think there's something noble in that. It's easy to flesh stuff out and get all purple with it, being cryptic and wearing masks... I think it's a bit adolescent. I wanted to write in a way that was vulnerable. I wanted to have courage in stripping back the opaque stuff so it was just raw. I like lyrics that are a lifeline, that have a purpose to them and are not just meandering around in a masturbatory way. They cut the page.

When you're making an album with people who made your favorite records as a rebellious teenager, it feels like you've achieved something.