By the time you finish touring the record, everything that's exciting to me is what's ahead of me. I want to write the next paragraph.

I like the fervor of religious music, the zealous aspect - that preachers can go from a conversational cadence into this passionate singing.

By the time you finish touring the record, everything that's exciting to me is what's ahead of me. I want to write the next paragraph.

I never want to listen to the songs in front of people close to me. There's an emotional honesty in that place where it's not earnest but it's vulnerable.

Music was my friend when I was a teenager, and I would inhabit and take comfort in lyrics. That's how I want to write.

If you can express something in the simplest way possible, I think there's something noble in that. It's easy to flesh stuff out and get all purple with it, being cryptic and wearing masks... I think it's a bit adolescent. I wanted to write in a way that was vulnerable. I wanted to have courage in stripping back the opaque stuff so it was just raw. I like lyrics that are a lifeline, that have a purpose to them and are not just meandering around in a masturbatory way. They cut the page.

I was definitely inspired by gospel music, or old-school R&B; I got into some Good God gospel compilations.