By the time you finish touring the record, everything that's exciting to me is what's ahead of me. I want to write the next paragraph.

I'm just worn down and weary of bands whose lyrics are cryptic and self-referential.

I was definitely inspired by gospel music, or old-school R&B; I got into some Good God gospel compilations.

I started growing roses. I enjoyed the craft of it and that they're difficult to look after; they can provide joy.

When you're making an album with people who made your favorite records as a rebellious teenager, it feels like you've achieved something.

Music was my friend when I was a teenager, and I would inhabit and take comfort in lyrics. That's how I want to write.

I never want to listen to the songs in front of people close to me. There's an emotional honesty in that place where it's not earnest but it's vulnerable.