I never want to listen to the songs in front of people close to me. There's an emotional honesty in that place where it's not earnest but it's vulnerable.

You can get into a comfort zone writing lyrics, like wearing a mask. But I wanted to feel uncomfortable when I was listening back to the lyrics; I wanted to squirm.

When you're making an album with people who made your favorite records as a rebellious teenager, it feels like you've achieved something.

By the time you finish touring the record, everything that's exciting to me is what's ahead of me. I want to write the next paragraph.

I'm just worn down and weary of bands whose lyrics are cryptic and self-referential.

I'm definitely preoccupied by thinking I'm just a biological thing. I want to feel that there's more, but so often I'm reminded of how we're just like baboons, basically.

I never want to listen to the songs in front of people close to me. There's an emotional honesty in that place where it's not earnest but it's vulnerable.