Recovery culture teaches you that you have to repent. I don't think that's necessary.

I wanted to show a different side of ourselves. I wanted to see in what ways I could explore something new. I felt like working on a double record would give people a lot to have.

Obviously there's so much about me on the Internet that you can turn against me, and you can make me into any person you want.

It's so easy to hate something. It's harder to genuinely appreciate something.

Three years between records is longer than average. Double albums are much more of a statement. I really wanted to put myself out there as much as I possibly could.

There's all these people involved, and it becomes this huge machine - it stops being just me making my own little songs for myself, or for the world. And it's hard to stop the machine. If you want to take time to write a record, they're like, "OK, tour through March, April, and June, then you can take a few weeks off to record in July before getting back on the road for the European festival circuit." After a while, I had to put my foot down.

A record is worth 10,000 live shows.