There's too much emphasis on backstory and personal stuff in music now - it's not going to make the music better if I hear that you did karate for the six months leading up to it.

Artists have to survive.

The shows are the main way our lives have changed.

We do say no to a lot, but we also say yes; I find ways of coming to peace with certain things. Sometimes a writer or actor will reach out and make it very personal.

I don't think it's inherently wrong when bands do certain things - sometimes I'm really excited when I see a band has taken a big ad or sync.

Twitter has to be about art. It can't be about banal things. Banal things and art are two different worlds.

We almost don't want to play bigger shows than where we are now. It's kind of perfect.