When you're making the record, you're not thinking about an audience, but you still need them and you want them.

I don't love CDs more than anything else, but I was just playing around with the idea that they could be something you're momentarily keeping hold of as everything is passing by.

You're trying to make music, and then at the end of it you give reasons for everything.

It's funny, I played a social gig once - we were playing music that was rhythm based, but it was going in some strange places. Some people came up to me afterward and said, "Can you play a tune that we'll all recognize?" I've carried that with me forever - why would you want a tune you could recognize? What's the point of that?

In the recording process, sometimes people feel that there isn't a space for them to contribute.

For me, the audience is the most important thing in the whole chain, so finding out how they respond to things is a learning curve at all times.

I find it really disappointing and cheap when someone's copied the whole drum sound from a record.