A lot of people thought Steve Jobs was a CEO of Apple but he never was until he came back to Apple in 1997.

The Macintosh having shipped, his next agenda was to turn the rest of Apple into the Mac group. He had perceived the rest of Apple wasn't as creative or motivated as the Mac team, and what you need to take over the company are managers, not innovators or technical people

I'm the kind of developer who likes to throw lightning rods around. To make a great program there's got to be at least one person at the center who is breathing life into it. In a ferocious way.

I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II

But typically for a project like the Mac, the size we had was pretty good. And it has different stages. The team grows as you have to write manuals and do testing... though the Mac had no formal testing.

Part of Steve's job was to drum into us how important what we were doing actually would be to the world

Being idealistic really helps you overcome some of the many obstacles put in your path.