A lot of people thought Steve Jobs was a CEO of Apple but he never was until he came back to Apple in 1997.

As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess.

But I think Steve's main contribution besides just the pure leadership is his passion for excellence. He's a perfectionist. Good enough isn't good enough. And also his creative spirit. You know he really, really wants to do something great.

I was a grad student at UC Berkeley when I bought my Apple II and it suddenly because a lot more interesting than school

I knew the Apple II was great when I bought it, but as I dug into the details it just completely blew me away the creative artistic approach that the designers had taken.

I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II

Apple was our benefactor at starting General Magic, but about a year later decided they would rather BE General Magic and tried to make us blink out of existence... which we eventually did, but it took a few years.