Scotty heard that I was thinking about quitting Apple because of his actions, so he called me into his office and asked what it would take for me to stay? I said, maybe if I could work on the Mac project, which Steve had just taken over from Jef Raskin.

I left Apple in April of 1984, pretty soon after the introduction of the Mac.

I was a grad student at UC Berkeley when I bought my Apple II and it suddenly because a lot more interesting than school

People who work on the user interface side need to have empathy as a key characteristic. But if you are writing device drivers you don't really need to understand humans so well.

As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess.

You show me a great program and I'll show you a passionate individual somewhere behind it.

We were developing an innovative Personal Information Manager called Chandler but a couple years ago I took off from that to do a project writing down my memoirs essentially, reminiscing about the development of the Macintosh.