I started working at Apple about 18 months after I bought my Apple II

The Macintosh having shipped, his next agenda was to turn the rest of Apple into the Mac group. He had perceived the rest of Apple wasn't as creative or motivated as the Mac team, and what you need to take over the company are managers, not innovators or technical people

But typically for a project like the Mac, the size we had was pretty good. And it has different stages. The team grows as you have to write manuals and do testing... though the Mac had no formal testing.

I left Apple in April of 1984, pretty soon after the introduction of the Mac.

Apple was our benefactor at starting General Magic, but about a year later decided they would rather BE General Magic and tried to make us blink out of existence... which we eventually did, but it took a few years.

I got bitten by the free software bug in February of 1998 around the time of the Mozilla announcement.

As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess.