The best practice you can get is on the bandstand, but in between gigs I feel I have to stay in shape.

Sometimes I had to room with Tony Kaye and that was awful.

But what I think my emphasis is, is on the fact that I like music a lot.

We used to drink an awful lot of alcohol.

And I like messing around in the engine room of music. Seeing what happens in the rhythm section area.

So I have the classic amateur's technique; I know some very tricky bits and I have large gaping holes.

Entertainment is about telling everybody that everything is alright but music is on the side of the upsetters and that's where I'm at.