It's a weird job because making music or writing a song is a personal thing... and it kind of has to be. You can always tell when people are faking.

There's a certain power in vague language, but I started to get more into the idea of really trying to have a discrete thought in the lyrics and to have songs that were about stuff - to try to make things more coherent.

Clearly, things are definitely changing in big ways as far as the way we consume music, listen to music, and what we expect from music.

Sometimes when you're on tour, it feels like you're living the same day over and over again.

When you make a melody that doesn't come with words from the get-go, sometimes you're just thinking about random vowel sounds that go with it - and it's really, really hard to write lyrics that actually obey the vowel sounds.

Sometimes you get really bitter about how the prettiest images don't typically end up attached to the most interesting music. But I just take that as a challenge to try to do something cool.

I'm super interested in visual, and I love that being in a band can be as much about making an image as it is about making a sound.