Emotionally I'm about 13.

Today, if you're not an alcoholic, you're nobody.

I've got plenty of arthritis. But if you keep moving, it won't bother you that much. That's why old guys stiffen up. They forget they have to get out of their chairs and do something. You let the moss grow over, it's your own fault.

So at 16 I got a job at the local radio station. And I was working after school and weekends. I did the news; I did everything. I did - played records.

I was the class clown, you know, that kind of thing, and I gathered around me a group of guys who also were silly. I was in all the plays and everything. But I don't know, at that time show businesses looked like the moon, you know, it was so far away. I wanted to be a radio announcer.

It means you never know what's going to happen,' I said. 'You do your best, then take your chances. Everything else is beyond our control.

I was always in show business but in many ways was not really of show business. I didn't move in show business circles, particularly, still don't do it.