You’re getting rid of the things that people used to think were essential to art. But that reduction is only incidental. I object to the whole reduction idea…if my work is reductionist it’s because it doesn’t have the elements that people thought should be there. But it has other elements I like.

Art and architecture - all the arts - do not have to exist in isolation.

If someone says it's art, it's art.

Pollock looks unusual and radical even now.

And then we moved to New Jersey and I went to the Art Students League.

And that Newman wasn't, and yet to me Pollock is just as radical and unlike Expressionism as Newman.

Well, in any art there are a lot of technical things that you can get to like.