You’re getting rid of the things that people used to think were essential to art. But that reduction is only incidental. I object to the whole reduction idea…if my work is reductionist it’s because it doesn’t have the elements that people thought should be there. But it has other elements I like.

Art and architecture - all the arts - do not have to exist in isolation.

Pollock looks unusual and radical even now.

Well, there's a morality in that you want your work to be good, I suppose.

Well, in any art there are a lot of technical things that you can get to like.

I think most of the art now is involved with a denial of any kind of absolute morality, or general morality.

But I think that's a particular kind of experience involving a certain immediacy between you and the canvass, you and the particular kind of experience of that particular moment.