Even nowadays some people see me as a "vreemde eend in de bijt" [translated literally as the strange duck in the pond. In other words, an outsider].

Shops and clubs are very important when you want to change things. And they have a common denominator; the customer.

If you just take the time to look, then yeah, you will find some really great music in Holland. Just scratch the surface and look underneath the corporate surface.

In nightlife you can do anything you want, because that is the fantasy life, the opposite of your daily life. Everything - except violence - is tolerated. And that is why it is so surrealistic in a way.

I think that is a great, great thing, to create your own identity and foster a true family spirit.

If you can make something genuine, then the ground is fertile for introducing something new. And that happened a few times in my life where I could sow the seeds and see something grow out of it.

Most of this innovative new music doesn't make money so it's regarded as uninteresting for the business people and considered as "underground".