It's hard to represent chaos, or like an absence of something. It's much easier to represent the presence of something or a situation.

You can take a picture of New York and one person looking at it will think it looks really depressing, frightening; and someone else will look at it and think of all the fun things you can do in New York. I think songs are kinda like that.

It's hard to represent chaos, or like an absence of something. It's much easier to represent the presence of something or a situation.

I just wanted to move out of Portland to do something.

People can be chaos but it's hard to fit it into some creative piece that you made. It's hard.

I don’t think it’s important who I am. I really like playing music, but I don’t really want to be anything in particular.

If you play acoustic guitar you're the depressed, sensitive guy.