Burning every bridge that I cross to find some beautiful place to get lost.

There's lots of ways people can be dependent, on another person, or drugs.

There's always that argument to make - that you're in better company historically if people don't understand what you're doing.

I got tired of doing battle with people thinking I was a little weird because I wasn't in a band making happy, stilted music. The only people who really seem weird to me are people who think they're normal. People who think it's possible to be normal just by doing the same things that most people do. Is there a most people? I don't know. Television makes it seem like there is, but I think that might just be television.

I think the music business will eventually crush me, but I [smiles]... I'm ready.

But I was also doing odd jobs around Portland, like spreading gravel and transplanting bamboo trees.

Everybody gets a tag. If you listen to a Velvet Underground record, you don't think, 'Godfathers of Punk.' You just think, 'This sounds great.' The tags are there in order to help try to sell something by giving it a name that's going to stick in somebody's memory. But it doesn't describe it. So 'depressing' isn't a word I would use to describe my music. But there is some sadness in it -- there has to be, so that the happiness in it will matter.