You've got to deal with how photographs look, what's there, not how they're made.

There was a camera club at Columbia, where I was taking a painting course. And when I went down, somebody showed me how to use the stuff. That's all. I haven't done anything else since then, It was as simple as that. I fell into the business.

I don't care how they think of it. Some of these people are acquiring some very good pictures by a lot of different photographers.

I've goofed, and there's been something interesting, but I haven't made use of it. It just doesn't interest me.

I don't know how to say easily what I learned. One thing I can say I learned is how amazing photography could be.

It's got to do with the contention between content and form. Invariably that's what's responsible for its energies, its tensions, its being interesting or not.

Los Angeles has interested me for a long time. I was in Texas for five years, for the same reason. I wanted to photograph there.