I'm not giving up on my work. I'm still trying to challenge people's aesthetics and myself.

Fashion was a very insider industry then - it was very closed. So I didn't really know what I wanted to do.

I think to many people, textured curls still signify 'difference.' And kids like to pick on what's different.

Someone might say that's a naïve way of looking at things now, and I would respect their opinion, but I also respect every woman's right to wearing her own individual style, including hair.

Suddenly it was cool to have your hair lank . . . It was a whole different way of looking at things, and it shook up the whole industry.

To be a good hairdresser, you have to understand what the vision is of the designer or the photographer and then sort of add your thing.

It's hard to be shocking now. It's hard to challenge people because the Internet has allowed everyone to become much more worldly, much more visual. It's very hard to surprise people.