Someone might say that's a naïve way of looking at things now, and I would respect their opinion, but I also respect every woman's right to wearing her own individual style, including hair.

I'm not giving up on my work. I'm still trying to challenge people's aesthetics and myself.

Beautiful things are different.

To be a good hairdresser, you have to understand what the vision is of the designer or the photographer and then sort of add your thing.

Fashion now is just so confusing. It doesn't feel as easy. Fashion seems to be in a much more eclectic place.

I used to get defensive and react. Like you, I get pushed and pulled [backstage].... Sometimes people are rude to me, and I feel like, 'You know, guys, I'm just here trying to do my job....' And the reality is, everyone else is just trying to do their job...and sometimes they get on a power trip [and] you feel disrespected. But that's their problem. It's not my problem.

I have a total complex [because of my curls], though, because I got teased a lot as a kid.