I don't want to call the show [ "Mary and Jane" ] a satire because it is not, but there are satirical elements.

We feel like we are using the East Side to kind of spoof what everybody thinks is cool.

We like to make sure there is a plot at the center of it and that you care about the people but to poke fun of little things, like the toast restaurant in the pilot.

Totally whatever we want to put in there. Then it was really "Now we are going to make it. We really need to find a consistent tone."I think the pilot ["Mary and Jane"] actually got it. It was more about the other episodes making sure everything else.

It is just fun to play with [in "Mary and Jane"]. I think our sense of humor tends to go that way.

I don't think we had a hard time with ["Mary and Jane"]. It is just, it was the constant management of it.

The pilot is easy. It is 30 minutes, 20 minutes. It is not that much to juggle.