It feels like a totally different MTV now.Now they have all their own original series, and people are talking about going back to music now? It's all original programming.

We like to make sure there is a plot at the center of it and that you care about the people but to poke fun of little things, like the toast restaurant in the pilot.

Totally whatever we want to put in there. Then it was really "Now we are going to make it. We really need to find a consistent tone."I think the pilot ["Mary and Jane"] actually got it. It was more about the other episodes making sure everything else.

The original pilot script [ of "Mary and Jane"], we literally just wrote for fun. It was, let's just do this.

Two years ago it felt novel to do the East Side and then tons of other stuff have come up set in that world, but we still liked it. It felt like people are using East Side in other shows because it is cool.

We did want it ["Mary and Jane"] to feel a little different and have some surreal weird touches, which we try to do every episode. That is what we took advantage of.

When we were done and not picked up to series yet, they wanted us to read lots of writers. I was like, "No." Then we finally were picked up. It is hard not to start thinking of story lines. It is like doodling.