The idea of thinking of our relationships with people as also being structured by limitations and constraints can be useful.

You allow yourself to discover the things that are already there when you play.

If you think of play as being in things, there are things that are playable, then it becomes the work of figuring out what a thing can do.

I think a lot of the misery that people experience comes from that sensation of boundlessness, of infinite possibility.

Actually a lot of the supposedly serious and meaningful and worthwhile content on the podcast or on the television is no more or less meaningful than the clothes in the laundry basket or the dishes in the sink. It's more a matter of the attention you're willing to bring to them, where you're willing to allow meaning and pleasure and the light to escape.

Generally speaking, when people use the word fun, it's like a placeholder. You know, "How was your evening?" "Oh it was fun."

The problem with fun is we really don't know what fun means at all.