You play a couple of shows, and these label guys come - and they leave halfway through a show. Then the phone calls just stop. And your heart is broken.

I didn't really learn how to play guitar until I was in college.

The hip-hop aesthetic and the way it's produced always motivated me. Alongside that I was still wanting to make great traditional songs because I've never had any desire to rap. My love of hip-hop is driven by my love of rappers, but it was built out of my love of producers.

I never was the front man in any bands I played in when I was in college, and I always learned music by myself at home.

I think sitting in the car with your parents and listening to music is an essential to growing up.

I want to talk about things that are tangible and real to me, but I also want to do them in a way that's poetic and artistic.

At the end of the day music is a grind. You're constantly working at it and even with playing shows as well. If your schedule isn't planned right it could really throw things off, but honestly at the end of the day its incredible being able to go to so many places.