Every child growing up will look to their parents, my mother and my father. My grandmother lived with us. I picked up quite a bit of family lore and history from her, which was interesting.

Like everybody at that age, I read an awful lot of pulp fiction. But at the same time, I also read quite a bit of history and read that as much for pleasure as part of a curriculum.

In working class districts, you had several families living together in the one house, and it was very difficult to get a house, because the politicians who controlled housing were doing so in a very discriminatory fashion.

When people are divided, the only solution is agreement.

I never thought in terms of being a leader. I thought very simply in terms of helping people.

I grew up in Derry, of course, and it was - Derry was the worst example of Northern Ireland's discrimination.

All conflict is about difference; whether the difference is race religion, or nationality.