I think it goes back to my high school days. In computer class, the first assignment was to write a program to print the first 100 Fibonacci numbers. Instead, I wrote a program that would steal passwords of students. My teacher gave me an A.

Should we fear hackers? Intention is at the heart of this discussion.

I could have evaded the FBI a lot longer if I had been able to control my passion for hacking.

So what I was essentially doing was, I compromised the confidentiality of their proprietary software to advance my agenda of becoming the best at breaking through the lock.

Of course I'm sure half the people there hate me and half the people like me

I saw myself as an electronic joy rider.

Security is always going to be a cat and mouse game because there'll be people out there that are hunting for the zero day award, you have people that don't have configuration management, don't have vulnerability management, don't have patch management.