You know when I was younger I used to look at Downbeat Magazine and I figured anybody in Downbeat must be making a living.

You would think that anyone on a major label would be doing something, but when you speak of major label that means something to maybe a big pop star that might be getting some sort of benefit from the major. But we still don't get anything.

We have the freedom to either play a tempo or not to play a tempo; to play a note or not to play a note; or to play what some people would say is a sound.

These people are interested in a wide variety of music, and that's what we're into.

Music is very important. It's important as a tool for learning, it can be a tool for healing, it can be no telling what, as long as we remain free to be able to create the music, to be able to experiment and to really research, and to really get time to develop the music.

Many times you never know what's going to happen. You'll play songs that you never thought you were going to play.

And there are a lot of people interested in creative music, there are more and more and more.