Immaterial art is the strongest because there's no obstacle; there's just energy, and I believe in energy.

I am not a therapist. I am not a spiritual leader. These elements are in the art: it is therapeutic, spiritual, social and political - everything. It has many layers. But art has to have many layers. If it doesn't, then forget it.

Don't even ask me why. I do not know, I have no answer to this insane behaviour.

In every ancient culture, there are rituals to mortify the body as a way of understanding that the energy of the soul is indestructible.

I have always staged my fears as a way to transcend them.

I didn't give any instruction to the video, because it was a new medium. I didn't know what to tell him; it was so young. I did the piece and immediately after the piece, I wanted to see the material.

You know I very much respect Yvonne Rainer, she is very important - in American dance, the entire development of modern dance, and creating a wonderful physical language.