So a lot of our shows where even we think we've taken a very deliberate stand, liberals say, 'That's awesome, you took on the conservatives' same show and conservatives say 'That's awesome, you took on liberals.'

When you reach that deeper level, you can't go back.

There are good characters and bad characters.

With religion I was always like, 'Does it matter if it's true if it makes you happy?'

The culture is just so coarse that you have to take it to that level and people will be like, 'Whoa!' And then you can make people think about stuff. It's kind of like shock therapy.

Once you get yourselves into things that are working on a deeper level, you just have to keep going. When you reach that deeper level, you can't go back.

I went to a couple Academy Awards parties and I was definitely like, 'Whoa, no one will talk to me.'