I see it happen in uniracial congregations all the time. But people - when they're in mixed company, we speak differently.

There's always that sense of because we're so racially defined, if you're trying to cross the boundaries you don't fit into any particular space.

It worries me a little bit the reach and power of TV. More people saw me in The Practice than will ever see me in all the stage plays I ever do. Which is sort of humbling. Or troubling. Or both.

Downsides, yeah, and when there are more downsides when churches first start - they go through stages of transforming to becoming multiracial. So in the beginning stages there's often a lot of pain, a lot of confusion, a lot of people leave.

So different groups have different definitions, and then they clash on those. So it takes adept leadership to say we're going to work through these.

I've played villains on stage - you know, the Iagos and so on - but I think of myself as a funny person. I mostly did comedies before I did TV work.

Every pastor I talk to says, and particularly if they're African American they'll say, "I'm not black enough for African Americans. I'm not white enough for the whites. I'm not Hispanic enough."