So you find a lot of these sixth Americans congregate in these interracial congregations. They hang out together at work, at school, wherever.

So we didn't get the denominations and the separate congregations really till about into Civil War time. What's happened then, of course, is now that we've had well over 100 years of this history to establish separate cultures, different ways of worshipping, and different ways of understanding theology so that when people try to come together makes it very difficult. And then, of course, social networks, you know, how do we find a place to worship?

It's the sad fact of how race still works in our country. We find that over and over again.

I see this in the way that sermons are preached. How would you give a Black Nationalist speech or campaign for the Republicans when you're an integrated congregation? It doesn't happen.

We go where our family goes. We go where our friends are, and because our social networks are so segregated by race, we end up with what we have. We also find that, you know, if you're immigrants, you're not part of that history.

I really do think that every time you play a role well, you are in danger of being identified with that role until the next big thing comes along.

I've been blessed by doing classic plays on Broadway, which was one of my great dreams forever.