In part because they had no choice, right? If you were a slave, you did what the master said. And they said to worship: "You're going to worship with us."

There's always that sense of because we're so racially defined, if you're trying to cross the boundaries you don't fit into any particular space.

As you may know, previously as Attorney General and now as Governor, I have supported legislation to close the gun show loophole in North Carolina.

What's happening is that Asian and Latino and other groups without that history are more likely to end up in either black churches or white churches and then make them multiracial churches. I talk about that in the US we have two cultures.

I really do think that every time you play a role well, you are in danger of being identified with that role until the next big thing comes along.

Once in a while you get people that maybe because of economic reasons, or have a social network, they get attracted. But it's a very tiny percent so that when we look at, you know, who are pastors and who are the head clergy of these congregations, they're overwhelmingly white, just a few African Americans, and those folks are usually called to what were formerly white congregations, or they started interracial church from the get-go.

I think people respond to villains because people in general are more villainous than heroic.