You know, my daughters have been through their entire lives and knowing about my case.

My daughters have grown up knowing all about my kidnapping and the case and what happened.

I mean, they call it Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder. And, you know, I had no free will. I had virtually no free will until I was separated from them for about two weeks.

Through my mind, is just the horror of these people. I had been held by them, I knew how violent they were.

It's hard to know what to say about somebody like that, except there are people who look for trouble. And trouble is very easy to find when you go looking for it.

For me, my awakening came when I was kidnapped.

There are two other SLA members who have been granted immunity and then also, one of the SLA members had confessed to two other people, and those people, I'm sure, will be called as witnesses, as they were at the grand jury.