You know, my daughters have been through their entire lives and knowing about my case.

Well, you know, it's really been, you know, quite a trip for me.

Even to me, as I was trying to tell the government what had happened, it just didn't seem to matter.

Well, you know, they were - they were a terrorist group. They - when I was kidnapped they published all of their statements about their war that they declared on the United States.

And you probably remember all of those papers and documents that they had published in the newspapers. And, you know, when you look at that, it really was their own little jihad that they had going. It just wasn't taken very seriously then.

You have to go hunting to know the excitement of seeing someone get their first deer. It's a thrill for them. It is.

I mean, they call it Stockholm Syndrome and post traumatic stress disorder. And, you know, I had no free will. I had virtually no free will until I was separated from them for about two weeks.