And you probably remember all of those papers and documents that they had published in the newspapers. And, you know, when you look at that, it really was their own little jihad that they had going. It just wasn't taken very seriously then.

My daughters have grown up knowing all about my kidnapping and the case and what happened.

Well, you know, it's really been, you know, quite a trip for me.

And, you know, like I said, I'm not looking forward to a trial.

I mean, Emily Harris was his wife.And she seemed to resent his leadership, but on the other hand, she felt like a good soldier, that he had to be the leader.

I'm a coward, I didn't want to die.

But now Americans, they felt a sense of peace and protection because they've been separated by so many thousands of miles of ocean. And you know, the fact that it's come to the U.S. like this is so sad, and yet you know, what can you do? It's here.