We had a church together. We co-founded and co-pastored the ministry, but Randy [White] was really a strong part.

When you go through abuse - the behavior - what happens is all behavior stems from faulty belief.

I started with self gone missing.

To say you're going to wiggle your nose and that is going to happen, it won't happen. If you look at major companies who are doing wonderful things, wonderful things and they give their portfolio billions of dollars that they make and they give away $10 million or so, when you start putting the percentages there, what we are doing is significant.

You're either in a position of abundance or you're in a position of poverty. Now, that's every area of your life. That's not just financially.

I can't tell what god will do because I'm not God. I can only take you back to biblical principle.

One of the things is that I've been very comfortable in every situation starting ministry in the inner city and ministering in places - Washington, D.C., feeding the homeless, the hurting, going to broken boys and girls. So culturally I understood all different aspects of life - from extremely wealthy to extreme poverty, socioeconomic differences, ethnic differences.