Use the worst colour you can find in each place - it usually is the best.

I take a cliche and try to organize its forms to make it monumental. The difference is often not great, but it is crucial.

I was at Rutgers University, and that was a center for Fluxus in a way. But it wasn't what I was interested in. All of it had an impact - as did happenings - because I could see that art was changing from expressionism, which I was doing at the time, or thought I was doing. But it wasn't the direction I really wanted to go.

Pop Art looks out into the world. It doesnt look like a painting of something, it looks like the thing itself.

What interests me is to paint the kind of antisensitivity that impregnates modern civilization. I think art since Cezanne has become extremely romantic and unrealistic, feeding on art. It is Utopian. It has less and less to do with the world. It looks inward - neo-Zen and all that. Pop Art looks out into the world. It doesn't look like a painting of something, it looks like the thing itself.

I think that most people think painters are kind of ridiculous, you know?

Outside is the world; it's there. Pop Art looks out into the world.