I recorded with Sinatra, but the recording business is a very strange strata right now.

I listen to everything.

And then I went into television; and then television moved from the East Coast to Hollywood.

Then I went to radio with Sinatra and I watched that disappear.

I grew up on film scores and scores from films.

You can tell by the applause: There's perfunctory applause, there's light applause, and then there's real applause. When it's right, applause sounds like vanilla ice cream with chocolate sauce.

I worked with practically everybody in the business in all of the years in NBC, but I worked personally many years with people like Crosby and Sinatra, so of course that was a great ground school for me.