If you have no shame, and it’s your goal to get people into bed, how much higher could your success rate possibly be?

I think it's just entertainment for people that are interested in the form. To sing along to and be psyched by.

You know, it's people's lives, so as you get a little older, your own life narrative, I guess, invades a little more. It's not like we're traveling in separate buses to each show. It's a labor of love, so we just do it because we like it. Maybe someone's gonna move, or not want to go on a tour for some reason - that could happen, I guess.

Almost every band has somebody who's the main songwriter and who has a vision, a very clear idea of how a song should be.

But, then again, I wouldn't call myself an indie-rock supporter even if there are some really good bands out there and there will always be some real good new bands.

If you have no shame, and it’s your goal to get people into bed, how much higher could your success rate possibly be?

That's why you go to a nice studio. You can get a magic take. You don't really have to do anything to it.