It's hard to think back. I didn't even know I was going to do it, make actual records. But I was always making up songs, once I figured out that you could do it. I think it's pretty much the same, but there's less urge to get it moving out there. There was a time when it seemed like it was really super important to the audience and now it's just medium-important for people to like us. But that's okay.

I'm more into describing a scenario and I move around in that scenario.

Usually [the lyrics] go from one word to the next word - there's no finish line. The music was that way, too.

I'm not dying for things to say.

You can change the world, but if no one's listening, it doesn't matter.

Well, you know, it's a younger person, and it was maybe an effort to be a little more sincere and adult about the lyrics occasionally, which is a good thing. It's nice that it's not too self-conscious like some of our lyrics could be.

What producers did was mostly recording in the studio, so it never changed our sound just that much.