Music doesn't have to be so rule-based - and so strict in its structures, construction and perception.

I think probably underneath it all, film [Kino] has its own rhythm and its own dynamic, and we were trying to capture the movement of film and cross-reference it with music.

We were responding to a period in the 70s when we started that it was very much you cannot be involved in music unless you studied to do music.

It was an important period for us, because even though we weren't a "punk band", and what became a model for a punk band, we were able to be dragged along by the spirit of that time.

We were iconoclastic. We weren't there to sort of follow the trends really. So it was important that we were making a statement against that.

This was in the sense that if Dada was reacting to the morality and aesthetics of pre-WWI, then we were very much a reaction to the pomposity of rock that existed within music at that time.

I don't think it had a name when we started. If punk has any roots, Dada is part of it. And we saw ourselves as part of a kind of Dada tradition.