When I went to college, I wasn't interested in fashion anymore - I was interested in art.

The photograph, the clothes, the sets - this was about 1974, and I started hanging out with my friend Richard Sold, who was playing in a band with Patti Smith.

I got to the point where I was sick of fashion again, like I was at the end of high school.

Maybe if they all could he combined - art, rock and fashion. Those were always my favorite things.

I finished high school there and then I went to Rhode Island School of Design.

I don't know if it's a movement, but the only thing new that's happening is that I think music and art and video and fashion are all kind of thrown into one big ball that's on television, and people see that all the time - you see a fusion of all those things.

I just really wanted to do art, except when I was taking those photographs of people I would make the clothes that I would photograph them in so I could control the whole thing.