When we first started with Apple computers, it was my dream that everyone would learn to program, and that was how they'd use their computer.

I have never left the company. I keep a tiny residual salary to this day because that's where my loyalty should be forever. I want to be an "employee" on the company data base. I won't engineer, I'd rather be basically retired, due to my family. (talking about his relationship with Apple Inc)

Geek it's really more a characteristic where you don't socialize. You don't talk the normal languages.

I really worry about everything going to the cloud.

In the end, I hope there's a little note somewhere that says I designed a good computer.

I never sensed really bad blood between Microsoft and Apple. A lot of Macintosh users feel badly about PCs and do have some bad feelings. I call them Macintosh bigots a little. They say, oh, no, only the Macintosh is the good one, and I don't like to be that way.

I want to feel that I own things.