It's easy to get four days a week of training in and I don't spend more than 55-60 minutes in the gym.

The lights go down, you hear the applause and you're up there, and then everything else is forgotten.

Fortunately, I was still living in Los Angeles at the time. So I went out to World Gym and got a membership.

The health industry, the fitness industry, was really starting to pick up. This was around the mid 80's.

It's easy to get four days a week of training in and I don't spend more than 55-60 minutes in the gym.

The turning point really is just knowing you're an imbecile.

But the business side of it, as with most creative things, there is no room for business. It is about art. It's not about marketing.