Apple was our benefactor at starting General Magic, but about a year later decided they would rather BE General Magic and tried to make us blink out of existence... which we eventually did, but it took a few years.

It's [programming] the only job I can think of where I get to be both an engineer and an artist. There's an incredible, rigorous, technical element to it, which I like because you have to do very precise thinking. On the other hand, it has a wildly creative side where the boundaries of imagination are the only real limitation.

Being idealistic really helps you overcome some of the many obstacles put in your path.

I did some products for the Apple II, most notably the first small low cost thermal printer, the Silent Type.

Part of Steve's job was to drum into us how important what we were doing actually would be to the world

I left Apple in April of 1984, pretty soon after the introduction of the Mac.

I knew the Apple II was great when I bought it, but as I dug into the details it just completely blew me away the creative artistic approach that the designers had taken.