People come in with business plans and, I mean I know that no one is going to meet everything they say in a business plan but you got to have something to, to guide towards.

This country's going to have a revolution if something doesn't happen the haves and have - nots.

I mean I wasn't a founder in the sense that I contributed anything scientifically but in the sense that I signed the corporation papers and, and owned founder's stock.

So I, I knew something in a business sense about semiconductors and I appreciated their possibilities.

Which, the first meeting with anybody is, you know, everybody is on their best behavior. It's only after you get to know them for a while that you figure out.

And what I'm interested in is investing in people.

Killing Intel, I, I just had to resign from the Apple Board.