So I, I knew something in a business sense about semiconductors and I appreciated their possibilities.

Killing Intel, I, I just had to resign from the Apple Board.

Well, I was born and raised in Rochester, New York.

People come in with business plans and, I mean I know that no one is going to meet everything they say in a business plan but you got to have something to, to guide towards.

Steve Jobs is a national treasure. He is so visionary, and so bright. I had to fire him, though.

So I, I knew something in a business sense about semiconductors and I appreciated their possibilities.

You know, a lot of people are just interested in, in building a company so they can make money and get out.